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Name: How you recognize male scammers.
Other Comments: I am Miss Marple and a contributor at this site, I have met many victims here at this site and I wanted to create an thread for those who are interested to find out how you recognize African male scammers. I met an scammer while ago, and he came from Nigeria and he tried to scam me, that’s why I created this thread so you can save some time and hopefully your Money by reading this general information I have written here.
I have made studies of African scammers in general and collected some stuff. I will represent here some basic information and some good advices what you can think about when you are out on the dating sites and online, which are the best ways to avoid scammers and learn how to spot them.
Are you an woman and have met the most wonderful, good looking and to good to be true man on the internet? He is also very smart, well educated, working probably as an constructor or engineer and travels a lot in his job, He tells you that he is an widower and has raised his child all alone, and he is now looking for true love. He falls in love very quickly and wants to marry you and wants to meet you soon. Suddenly he must travel to Africa. To Nigeria, Ghana, Ivory coast or another west African country for work and he will come back soon to meet you soon as possible. During his visit he gets in lot of trouble, he gets sick or have accidents. And he suddenly needs money, his credit card is not good enough or he’s has trouble to get his money from his account. Then he begins to ask for money.
Is this something you recognize?? You have probably met an scammer from Africa. Nigeria, Ghana and Ivory coast, Senegal and Dakar is the most common countries where scammers comes from, but they do operate with accomplices from European countries also as Germany, Holland and United Kingdom. Malaysia and China has also reported more scammers activities the latest time.
There is lot of different scams, Lottery scams, Charity scams, credit card scams and spams (Variation from the 419 scam)and other different types of scams, But this is page is only about ROMANCE SCAMMERS or DATING SCAMMERS
1.Scammers use templates before they starts to ask for money and there is variations in time in that also before they do that from 2 weeks until 2-3 years. Scammers use templates because they scam many people at the same time and have no time to write personal mails.
2.Look for the language, scammers has often very bad grammar and their skills in European language is bad, the templates are often translated by GOOGLE
3.They fell in love very quickly and talk about endless and undying LOVE
4.Avoiding your questions in the mails (typical for scammers who use templates) but variations do exist in this also.
5. Asking money from strangers is a scam, African, Russian, man,woman makes NO DIFFERENCE! http://ladies-russia.net/Scam.php 6.The scammer tells you to end your dating site account because you are the only true love for him (this is the way he can control the victim)
7.Scammers uses an +44 as an UK number to confuse victims with that they are in UK but they are in fact in Nigeria . ID Spoofing
8.If it sounds to good to be true it is often that also.
What can you do to protect yourself?
You must protect yourself even if it is not an scammer you are talking to. Never give out any personal information to somebody that you don’t know such your home address, telephone numbers no bank account/credit card numbers or other sensitive information as log in to your email addys or other accounts .Scammers asks for telephone numbers so they can convince people with their undying love as they asks for money, so don’t give out any phone numbers to foreigners. As scammers are criminal in the cyber world their knowledge in computers are very good .Get yourself an good Antivirus program to protect you from malware and spams, never click on links that unknown people sends you in mails, there could be an trojan waiting for you. As trojan is an malware and is created to steal and copy information from other computers.
How do scammers work out and how do you recognize them??
Maybe you are talking for the moment with an scammer but nothing is not what it appears to be as the wonderful man you talking to is an criminal sitting in a internet cafe and knows exactly what he is doing ,because he has done this so many times before that you can’t even imagine that your lovely man is only an criminal and wants to have your money, they are trained to be psychological and knows exactly what to talk and uses your weaknesses to get you into the trap. They send you gifts and talks poetry to you to get you really fall in love. And when you are enough in love then they starts to ask for money. They suddenly gets in to trouble and get into accidents and make up fake stories and involves other scammers also pretending to be doctors and lawyers or barristers that the story sound so real as possible, so that the victim feels empathy and open up the wallet to the scammer. They ask money for anything, from food to hospital bills, they can even send you fake documents that you have to sign your personal information that you suddenly can get involved in the crimes to without any knowledge of what you have really got involved into. As scammers are criminals they are involved in money laundry and drugs. They use most Western union to transfers to receive money from victims, but money gram is also more common now. Scammers uses stolen identities from other victims from another earlier scams or stolen from internet also. So the names they use to collect your money in are not their own names. So catch theses scammers are very difficult because of this.
The grammar is very bad as their skills are not good in English so they use templates translated by some translator and many time the scammers uses GOOGLE to translate their letters, so look for the language in the letters you receive from the scammers. Scammers uses much religion also in their scams they talk many times that they are GOD fearing and pretend to be very religious. http://www.delphifaq.com/faq/male_scammers/f3269.shtml?p=11#comments often the scammers has children and they are widowers also, because in this way they can affect the victims in a emotionally way to the single mothers, everybody can be scammed but they often seek for single women with kids and in the age of 40, as people has generally made carrier and has an stabile economic situation as that attract scammers of course.
What can you do if you suspect you talking to an scammer?
If you suspect that the person you are talking to on the internet is an scammer, there is sites where you can seek for photographs, as I have put an link in the beginning of this information, but there is others you can do also, if you have contact with an scammer through email, you can look up the IP address, that the person uses and see if the person uses forged IP or has been reported to an scammer site. If the IP address is forged it is absolutely an scam, no real and honest person uses forged IP address, and if they begin to start talking about Africa that they are travelling to Nigeria or Ghana for business or work it is an scam also. Even if they have not asked for money yet it can be an scammers as well, as they can wait with that question a long time. Look for information on the internet what your love is doing and report scammers to sites because only by reporting scammers you reduce the scammers to operate and scam other people. Talk to other people about scamming and inform your friends who you also are talking to on the internet. If you have been scammed you must of course report this crime to the nearest authorities in your hometown and country. And here I have some links where you can find also information what you can do if you have been scammed, but I must put out an warning if you want to report scammers to authorities in Africa be careful who you are talking to, and also find out if it is real people you have contact with, as scammers abuses also this and goes under fake persons and scams people by saying the helping scammed people, there is a lot of fake detectives, so be careful who you are talking to and who you leave your personal information to.
Do not let this thing fool you ,that this scammer did not have the exact pattern/profile as the usual online scammer has,it do not mean he is not a scammer! .It is not said that All the scammers are engineers or constructors,scammers can be whatever i,it is just a thumb rule to recognize scammers easier online,but i have spent probaly thousands of hours to study these scammers and there are exceptions in this too. I think it has to do how skilled scammers you are dealing with or if the scammers operates out of bigger or smaller groups ,i am sure you have talked with an scammer that has been in the game for an while and probably operates out of Hong Kong ,we have been having some reports that indicates scams that comes from that area now and scammers that scams women of big amounts of money too ,very manipulative scammers but the scam origins from Nigeria .
I know he has taken you emotionally in this now as you do not seem to believe totally he is an scammer .let me tell you something scammers do ask the victims to come and meet them ,they ask of course to make the story believable and manipulate you .West-African scammers do not show up on webcams normally as they are not the ones they say. Scammers steels photos from the internet from Facebook,from My Space every where people lays out photos online,they even steel photos from victims too...
Finally strangers who asks for money are scammers no excpetions...
And one other thing never confront a scammer with the truth ,he will never admit that he is an scammer NEVER!
Yes he has met someone else to scam ! that is one thing for sure and he probably had many other victims he talked with in the same time as he confessed his love to you .
I know what i am talking about i met an scammer once my self ,he manipulated me too with all sobe stories that he was starving and he even asked me to send money for an quarter pound hamburger ,it is just to create guilt in people and often these scumbags do succeed very good too...
All kind regards //Miss Marple//
From Andy Youness Tue Nov 13 09:35:02 2012
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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:35:02 +0000 (GMT)
From: Andy Youness <email@example.com>
Reply-To: Andy Youness <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY.
Content-Type: multipart/alternativboundary= '-1627698416-795905940-1352799302=:54460'
When he sent me this email he said its there in Malaysia .....
Anyone can tell me this email is use in scammer ?
Miss Marple from United States
i traced the header and he is not in Malaysia as you can see on the result below,i used a different tracer that showed Ireland but scammers goes often under fake IPs ,especially when they are asking for money.So this is not a person that is honest ,i believe it is a scammer hiding behind the mails,be careful!
Ip Address 3rd Party Info Provider City Flag Country
* 188.8.131.52 Leaseweb Usa n/a United States
184.108.40.206 Dublin Ireland
220.127.116.11 n/a Ireland
18.104.22.168 n/a Ireland
*Probable originating IP address
Thanks you so much i believe now this man is a scammer, everytime i ask him to see in cam he refuse he sent me 3 photo of a white man and now i recieved his email asking money for me.
So ladys beware of this man
I dont know who this man in real or someone using this in scam.
Asking strangers for money online is always a scam ,have that as a rule for the future! Scammers do not show up on webcams (Africans) as they want to hide what they are up to of course.Nigerian scammers operates out of Malaysia ,so the scammer might be in Malaysia after all .The scenario with white males seeking dates from Malaysia is very common as the white male connection from Nigeria and Ghana and that is always a scam too.
Please post the other pictures you have received from the scammer and also the asking for money letter as it is evidence on scam ,i could not find any hits on the picture you posted but the other photos you have can give hits ,so please post them here.
What you should do now:Block the scammer from your email and other social network as where you met him,do not tell the scammer what you know ,scammers do not confess to their crimes instead more lies or even worse starts threatening you as he will not get the money he wanted.Nigerian scammers operating out of Malaysia can be very nasty and mean to victims,so better to be safe than sorry.
All kind regards //Miss Marple//
last email i recieved.........
My love i am so happy that at less i have to talk to,i really thank God for everything he did for me today mostly in the meeting.My dear you know during the meeting i was asked to pay up a 15% commission to the people that are the head of the office on what they had on agreement with my late dad before they will hand over the fund to me as the next of king to my late dad and family.Luckily for i came in here with some cash but i after i changed it to the equivalent of what they are asking for in their currency i became short of 5,000MYR that is Malaysian money.I thought of calling you on the phone to tell you this but i feel short words on how to tell you this,truly i feel very down asking you this but please with seek of human and the love we have for each other,please help me with this remaining amount so that i can complete this payment before 12,noon tomorrow and fly down to meet you cos i have asked a flight agent to reserve a space for me on the 4.pm flight to come and see you.Please my love,try and see what you can do for me before that time tomorrow okay,even if you can borrow it from someone around you and i will pay interest on it okay.I love you honey and i can't wait more here to be with you.
I would love to hear from you soon take care of your self love you
Thank you ,still could not find any hits on the pictures !But the man is not a scammer ,scammers has stolen his photos online somewhere maybe facebook .but what i can see on the photos i believe it is an guy from USA,the houses looks American style.
Could you post the introduction mail from this scammer? It can give an indication if it used in other scams .
First email of Andy :
De: Andy Youness <email@example.com>
Enviado: Lunes 24 de septiembre de 2012 12:13
Asunto: JUST TO CONFIRM YOUR EMAIL.
How are you doing over there and your family hope you all are in good health? My name Andy Youness, you gave me your email address on Filipino-cupid.com, This is just to confirm your email address if i did get it correct do let me know if you get this mail i will tell you more about my self and send my picture to you on my next mail, Yours new friend, Andy.
Enviado: Viernes 28 de septiembre de 2012 15:22
Asunto: HER IS MORE ABOUT ME.
I am Andy Youness by name here in London 40 years of age single never marry before, i have a sister but i lost her 7 years back also lost my dad 5 years back too i still have my mum with me and my uncle I grew up in a good and God fearing family, I am an engineer construction trade Under road construction and maintenance for roads I am here for serious relationship that lead's to marriage .I need caring ,honest woman with good understanding of family, Because I am attractive, intelligent, strong-positive personality, great sense of humor ~ confident, elegant, if i am the man of your dreams, the man whose eyes spoke to you: On my free times I do like watching soccer mostly champion league, my favorite team is Manchester United, I do like to watching F1 Race, reading and fishing. I like the nature, long walks etc.I love to read as long as its not a Mills & Boon....lol... I love thriller a good murder mystery as well as autobiographies. I love the threat re, a good movie. I'm also a home body meaning I can easily relax at home and bake or cook after work oh I love cooking experimenting with food, for me is a way of relaxing I am honest and sincere romantic and happy man I hate disappointment, I have few question? 1,WHEN WAS YOUR LAST RELATIONSHIP? 2, WHAT ARE YOUR HOBBIES?, 3 WHAT IS THE NATURE OF YOUR WORK?, 4, DO YOU LEAVE ALONE?, That is all for now and hope to hear from you soon have a wonderful day.
Enviado: Domingo 30 de septiembre de 2012 13:51
Asunto: YOU LOOKS GOOD.
It is really nice to hear from you,how are you and your family doing hope the are in good health? meanwhile i hope you didn't feel bad or embarrass from my first mail to you?truly i must say that i felt very happy seeing your mail this morning as i wake up.In fact i am a little bit short of words as i see this friendship moving on nicely,truly i have nothing much to say for i believe that i have said much of my self in the site and i believe as we move on as friends we will get to share ideals and thoughts together and as well get to know each other very well.Truly i want to have the real feelings in this friendship my dear friend,i am just giving it a trail and i can see that it is moving nicely after seeing your mail today.Let me say thank you once more for making out time to writ to me,i can see we two are in need of good friendship and i want both of us to know that we can't do or archive it alone rather we need to come together as two good friends and you will see that the sky will be our limit.But let me ask you what makes a good friendship to stand?to my believe it is understanding,love and honesty that makes it work nicely.That is truly why i deleted my profile immediately i contacted you cos i want to concentrate on you alone and don't want any other person to contact me from that site anymore. My dear friend,i want you to know that i am a man who goes out with one woman and i would want my woman friend to be an opposite sex of having only one man in her life.I can take care of my woman in any way so i don't see the reason why a woman in my life will be looking else where,i don't want to share anything about my woman friend with another man.I just mate you,and we haven't met each other face to face but we can start it from here.I will want you to think about this and tell me if i am your type or not.One more thing i am a kind of person who follows my heart and i believe that i am in the right place with you,what do you think about that? Please send me your photo. I will stop here while looking forward to hear from you soon. Yours new friend, Andy.
Fecha: sábado, 6 de octubre, 2012 12:31
How are you doing today my dear i can see that your always happy and in good health?
Really i don't know how to explain things to you,on how i feel for this relationship but i believe you should understand by now.For the past two days now that we have been communicating i have opened up to my family things about you and i have gotten all their support,but one thing they asked me was when will i be going to see your people.While for me i don't want to rush things,rather i want to take my time so as to know you very well before coming to see them.So please i will want you to make me understand you very well and please don't hide anything from me okay.Here i am with a good intention towards you and i strongly believe that you have a good intention towards me as well.I want you to know that it is not all about one being pretty or handsome,rather it is the understanding and the truthfulness in one.In that case there are few things i will want to disclose to you now as they are things i wish to do and share with you at some point in this lifetime as we try our possible best to make this a better place for both of us.(1)is that i will be your best friend,(2)Be more proud of you than i already am at this very moment,(3)Spend the rest of my life with you,(4)Accept you totally and completely,(5)spend my life making you happy and lastly spend my life making our family happy forever.For now all i ask from you is to give me the chance in your life and watch me as i bring all this to you in our life time together tell me when will you be free i really want to chat with you it will help us to get to know each other do tell me when you will be free or you can call me when your free.Take care for now and please do send my regards to your family here is my mobile number 00447924004874. Hope to hear from you soon. Sincerely yours, Andy.
Miss Marple from United States
Thank you so much for these mail,you will save other women from this scammer as when they do researches online they will find the mails here....when i read the mails ,there are so many signs you have been in contact with a scammer...
1.He is an engineer..typical scammer occupation
3.Scammers ask a bunch of questions to the coming victim ,to find the vulnerable side in the victim ,the scammers will notice here if the victim is something you can manipulate too..
4.Scammers are very loving ,caring ,knows exactly what to persuade the victim with ..
That is truly why i deleted my profile immediately i contacted you cos i want to concentrate on you alone and don't want any other person to contact me from that site anymore.
Scammers deletes accounts when they have a potential victim on the hook ..
@ Miss Marple
Thank you so much also for giving a time to read my post here im glad that other ladies can read this its not easy to forget if you have a victim before. thanks so much in this site you can save much people to be a victim of bad people only want to get easy money.
Miss Marple from United States
You are brave to post your information on this site to warn others,but there is still so many people out there who do not report or even tell any living soul that they have been scammed by these scumbags .Thats why i created this thread,so this can function as a tool for you victims and for people who just want to be sure if they are talking to an scammer or not.
Thank you !
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